New wheel sizes

Those turned out nice for $50 Bill!! Good job!

lol

Yeah... I decided to wait until next year for the discs. I have driven all drums many times in the past, and figure I can make it one year with that set up, especially as this won't be a daily driver.

So I took the plunge last nite and ordered rims & skins.  I opted for 16x7 Konig Rewinds ( similar to Tim's except one size larger and I went with the graphite color to match my trim ) mainly becuz I don't want to have to deal with bolt pattern changes. They will be wrapped in Falken Azenis RT615K's -- size 215/45/16.  Essentially the tire will remain around 23.5" overall diameter but increase in tread width to about 8.33" and obviously have a much larger rim facing ( +3" ).  Here are pix of the wheels and tires -- once I receive them and bolt them on I will shoot some more and report back.

Can't wait to see them on your car.

Sadly they called me today to tell me that the tires are on backorder with no end in site so i opted for these nitto neo gens in a 205/45/16 but i saved almost 200 lol http://m.nittotire.com/car-tires/neo-gen-all-season-ultra-high-performance-tire/

Very interested to see what the 16s look like on the car...

regal81455 wrote:So I took the plunge last nite and ordered rims & skins.  I opted for 16x7 Konig Rewinds ( similar to Tim's except one size larger and I went with the graphite color to match my trim ) mainly becuz I don't want to have to deal with bolt pattern changes.  They will be wrapped in Falken Azenis RT615K's -- size 215/45/16.  Essentially the tire will remain around 23.5" overall diameter but increase in tread width to about 8.33" and obviously have a much larger rim facing ( +3" ).  Here are pix of the wheels and tires -- once I receive them and bolt them on I will shoot some more and report back.

Phone pix aren't the greatest and it's pretty dirty from drivin' in the last three days but here she is with the new shoes. No change to the wheel studs, found LH thread lugs. No rubbing. I've had it full tilt in both directions and have bounced on the rear bumper and am just clearing the fender lip -- may have the lips rolled tho so I can get new springs and lower the front a full inch and rear a half inch to give it just a slight rake.

Only issue I had was with the front center caps. They won't fit with the OEM drums. I may try to grind them down just a bit to see if I can get them to fit but if not I eventually will convert to discs anyways and that should solve the problem.

Those look real nice on that car. That was fast too.

Looks sharp......

Tx guys!! Best part is the center color ( graphite ) is an almost perfect match for the accent color used on the grill, tails, etc... like it was meant to be!

regal81455 wrote:Only issue I had was with the front center caps.  They won't fit with the OEM drums.  I may try to grind them down just a bit to see if I can get them to fit but if not I eventually will convert to discs anyways and that should solve the problem.

I had the same issue. I had the first 1/4" or so of the area of the hub turned down to fit inside the cap. I left the original diameter alone in the area of the drum fitment. This allowed to fit the center cap without affecting hub piloting.

I had the same issue. I had the first 1/4" or so of the area of the hub turned down to fit inside the cap. I left the original diameter alone in the area of the drum fitment. This allowed to fit the center cap without affecting hub piloting.

I thought that maybe the thing to do -- I just about broke the grinder out lol but figured it would be better/cleaner to have it machined.  Tx for this little tidbit I will probably have this done here soon -- but that means Ill have to have the car on jack stands for awhile... BOOOOO

Any chance you have pix of what you had done?

regal81455 wrote:I thought that maybe the thing to do -- I just about broke the grinder out lol but figured it would be better/cleaner to have it machined.  Tx for this little tidbit I will probably have this done here soon -- but that means Ill have to have the car on jack stands for awhile... BOOOOO

Any chance you have pix of what you had done?

Sure, I should be able to snap a photo this evening. I haven't assembled that part back on the car yet.

Tim_D wrote:Sure, I should be able to snap a photo this evening. I haven't assembled that part back on the car yet.

That would be super appreciated -- just want to make sure we're thinking the same thing lol -- even though I'm sure there is more then one way to skin this cat.

Here's a shot of my hub.

Ok great thats what I thought you were sayin' tx for confirming Tim!

I'd like to chime in here... I have a set of Appliance Mags from the 70s. They are 14" and have 205-75-14s mounted. The tires do not rub. I do not know for sure, the offset, but I think they are 0. I'll check this weekend. Can we summarize what we have on our cars (if not OEM) so we can make a more complete shopping list for the group. I'll check tonight on mine and will summarize this in another thread so it can be referred to easily in the future. My mags hit my newly mounted disc brakes and I needed a 5mm spacer to clear the caliper.

As was mentioned, the long list earlier in this thread is not really that useful as some of the cars listed are fwd with negative offset and would rub at lock, even though they are 4  on 4.5". I'd like to know rim diameter, rim width, offset (or backset), rim part number or car originally designed for, tire size used and any interference noted if any and brake type (disc, drum, OEM, custom, Scarebird, calipers, etc). I'm considering minilite 15" new rims, but that is a costly proposition but it seems like I may be hunting for a long time via craigslist for a set of used rims.

keithg wrote:I'll check tonight on mine and will summarize this in another thread so it can be referred to easily in the future.

Keith--

I too believe we should start a sticky ( if possible on this board? Bill??? ) that let's people list what they've used and KNOW works for our cars.

Feel free to use my pix and info on the my wheels/tires are as follows:

Wheels:  Konig Rewinds - 16 x 7 - 4 x 4.5" ( 114.30mm ) Bolt pattern - ZERO OFFSET

Tires:  Nitto NexGen 205/50/R16 ( 23.5" OD )

No issues with rubbing in front or back.  Can turn wheel full tilt in both directions.  Hitting bumps haven't been an issue either.  The wheels should clear any brake system ( inc retro'd disc setups ) BUT the front hub is a little bit larger on than the center cap opening on these wheels.  You will either have to run without ( like Im doing ATM ) or have the hub turned down some to clear.

Yes- stickies are totally possible on this board. Unfortunately it looks like you have to specify that when you create a topic. Follow the link to find the directions to do it. I went in to post a new topic and the option was there.

http://help.forumotion.com/t3339-stickies-and-announcements#18906

Scratch that - I read it a little deeper. I can edit an old post to make it a sticky. My take is we start a new topic anyhow, since it will look a lot cleaner. If we sticky this one people will have to sift through a lot of info to find what they are looking for.

Posting to this thread, again. I am looking around and would prefer real minilites but the Konigs look pretty good and for 125 a piece not bad. I want 15s so the part number I am looking at is RW75114006. I was also guessing that the 205-50-16 would be the tire size. The 14s on my car are 7" wide with 3-3/4" backset. or ~ 1/2" offset. I have a set of SAAB Shelbys (minilites) and they are 6.5" wide and have a 4-3/4" backset. These are for a fwd so not acceptable. Are these the rims TimD got?

Keith

keithg wrote:Posting to this thread, again. I am looking around and would prefer real minilites but the Konigs look pretty good and for 125 a piece not bad. I want 15s so the part number I am looking at is RW75114006. I was also guessing that the 205-50-16 would be the tire size. The 14s on my car are 7" wide with 3-3/4" backset.  or ~ 1/2" offset. I have a set of SAAB Shelbys (minilites) and they are 6.5" wide and have a 4-3/4" backset. These are for a fwd so not acceptable. Are these the rims TimD got?

Keith

The Konigs that I am running are 15x7, zero offset (4.0 backspace). I have 205/60/15 Cooper tires. Ride height is stock (not "saggy spring" stock). The part number I got from Summit Racing's website is indeed RW75114006.

I do not have clearance problems on the rear (although I can't speak to what it would be like if I had the weight of 4 passengers). The fronts sometimes hit while driving in reverse, at full lock, over a bump. The contact point is the front wheel well lip of the fender. I avoid this maneuver and subsequently avoid the contact issue.

You will have a clearance issue with the snap-in center cap on the front wheel. The stock hubs are too large diameter. I had my hubs machined down in the non-clearance area, per the photo.

Tim, Thanks, that looks great...

So, here I am again doing the research. The original tires appear to be 6.50-13 which are 24" diameter. The equivalent diameter 15" tire is 175/65R15. In the late 70s, Dad put a set of 14" rims on it and 205/75R14 tires (26" diameter). They do not hit or rub, but dad did some finessing to make that work. The rims appear to have a +0.5" offset and they do not hit when I drive it. I'd have to look at what was finessed. He also replaced the speedometer gear to get the speedometer somewhere near correct.

The 205/60R15 tires are smaller than mine but larger then OEM at 24.7" diameter because they are the same width, they may not rub but the wheels have a different offset, so maybe they will. The same diameter tires are the 215/65R15 but it is a bit wider and about the same diameter as my current tires. Also, there is not a lot of selection at this size.

ARRRRGH, I'll probably just get what you have as you know they work.

Keith

I used 2010 Nissan Versa wheels up front after the disk conversion. I got them new on Rockauto for $50 each. They are 15x5.5 which fits fine and cleared the calipers no problem. The biggest drawback is that they are modern vented wheels (AKA UGGGGGGLLLLLLLY) and normal hubcaps wont work. I ended up getting a set of "spacer series" caps from Mooneyes that are extra deep for FWD cars. They are the only classic looking cap i could find that fit.