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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by woody1640 on Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:06 pm

Josh: I see the difference that your speaking of. Your style may not be as easy to modify, but I'd be willing to bet that a top mount from a 63 would bolt right on. Looks to me like the top cross plates were made similar, or at least the bolt holes look the same.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Bill on Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:54 am

Keith - fantastic job. You have made me a vertical happy person today! Way to go, and thanks for answering this question for all of us.

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Post by woody1640 on Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:11 am

Bill wrote:Keith - fantastic job. You have made me a vertical happy person today! Way to go, and thanks for answering this question for all of us.

Bill: Thank You, I spent way more hours on this part than I thought it would take. It would have been a lil easier if they made these with the cap on top centered instead of "off center" like the 61&62 radiators are. After doing some research I see the center caps are located slightly differently from the 61&62 models to the 63, but still the radiators are overall the same exact size (width & height).

The only reason that these are not a direct OE fit is cause they are a 3 core instead of 2 and therefore thicker.

Judging from what I've researched it should take a lil less work to fit this into the 61&62's.

I am going to take my radiator to a local shop and have the upper hose fitting moved to the drivers side, like they should have been made originally (my opinion).


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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:11 am

Gents,

My Champion Aluminum radiator is on it way and should be in my hands by Wednesday. I actually ordered it from Jeg's and they are shipping straight from manufacturer.

Anyhow, my plan is to remove the lower mounts and not use upper mount at all. I am going to tig weld aluminum L- brackets to the tanks and mount it straight to the rad support.

2 - 10" electric fans mounted to rad should do the trick to keep my little turbo V8 cool. :-)

Will keep you posted with progress and pictures.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Bill on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:50 pm

Sweet!

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Post by Esasky's62Lark on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:59 pm

Bill,

You planning on ordering one of these? From what I hear, they are pretty decent.


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Post by Bill on Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:29 pm

Yes. I plan to order it on Friday. I see them on ebay with free shipping for $208 all day.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:15 pm

Nice! I paid $227.00. Feel better ordering from somewhere I know has a reliable reputation.


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Post by Bill on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:11 pm

That's not too much more. Maybe I will go that route. Didn't know that they were that competitive.

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Post by Bill on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:14 pm

Also, can you provide me with whatever part you use to reduce the bottom hose? The outlet on the radiator is 1 3/4. I think it will be a new hose, but I would like to know what you come up with.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:46 pm

Will definitely let you know Bill. My 62 has a 300 in it out of a LeSabre and I am pretty sure the water pump outlet is 1 3/4" so I may not have an issue.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by woody1640 on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:53 pm

Guys: I sprayed the inside of an 1 1/2" hose with WD-40 and slipped it right on the 1 3/4" fitting ... no problem.


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Post by Bill on Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:49 pm

Even better!! I like the free solution!

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by woody1640 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:45 am

Chris: Now thats thinking outside the box ... lol. I am liking your idea, are you planning on welding L brackets to the top then too?

Only drawback that I can see would be replacement down the road, but it is a classic car and not a daily driver and probably never need replacing again.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:32 am

Keith,

I try pal.

No, I am actually just planning on welding them on both sides of the tanks. There are already provisions on the rad support where the rad can be bolted directly to the support and no other bracketing should be necessary.

If I have to replace it, I just weld new L-brackets to the new rad and call it a day. :-)

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by woody1640 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:27 pm

Chris: I am thinking vertical & you are thinking horizontal. After I posted my response I was thinking about the old cars that had the solid bolted in radiators and they were usually on the sides too.

But yeah your idea should work great. I would like to see some pics of it when your done, I can almost picture it in my mind .. lol.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Bill on Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:03 am

Chris - Did you get it yet?

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:46 am

I did get the radiator. Just opened up the top of the box; didn't take it completely out. From what I saw so far, its is very well done. We are planning to start the install tonight.

I will be sure to provide pics!

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:47 am

Ok. Did a trail fit of the rad last night.

Had to grind a little of the core support to get the welds on the bottom tank to fit.

Radiator seems tall to me. Hood isn't on the car bit it definitely seems like it sits high. This is with the lower rad mounts unbolted from the rad support.

Lower hose port hits my oil filter. Oil filter relocation kit is in my future.

Other than that, rad is a nice piece. Didn't get a chance to take pictures.



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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:56 am

Keith,

You went through the install. This thing clears the hood? It just seems like it's really tall. Is ur car a 63?

Don't the 63s have virtually no rake to front nose? More square?


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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by woody1640 on Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:09 am

Chris: Yes it clears the hood, just barely though. If you compare your new champion with an original you will see their the same width and height. If you look @ the pics I posted you will see it installed in my parts car with the original (modified slightly) top bracket installed. and I also set the hood on to make sure and YES it fits!


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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:12 am

That's the thing Keith, I don't have an original :-(.

Going to have to set it in there and lay the hood on.


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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by regal81455 on Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:31 am

Chris--

I'd measure for you but I think we determined you had the smaller of the two rads and thats why the one you got from kid442 doesn't fit for you, right?

Sorry to hear about the need for a filter relocate -- that's abit of a bummer but not a deal killer either.

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Esasky's62Lark on Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:33 am

Josh,

Yeah, that's exactly why pal.

It's cool. Was planning on moving it anyways to make more room for my DP off the turbo.

It's gonna be tight in this little engine bay...

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Re: Aluminum Champion radiators

Post by Bill on Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:09 pm

Chris- the filter problem is worth the 300 engine you have in there right? It likely won't be an issue for the stock 215 I hope.

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